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Pires: Greatest Ever Hypocrite?

Robert Pires says United's arrogance fired Arsenal up. You're talking about arrogence, Bobby?

Oh god. Now this is hypocrisy on the grand scale. I mean, Jose has gone so a lot of things has been lost but we have a taste from the past with Robert Pires talking up things in Spain.

The man who was firmly responsible for making the 'Invincibles' as loathsome as possible with his unbearable smugness is now on the matter of arrogance - accusing others with it!

'What exactly motivated this rivalry in the first place is not totally clear to me,' he told the Daily Mail.

'But I believe towards the end it was all to do with Manchester United's excessive arrogance and their excessive physical play.

'With each triumph, Ferguson would insist that his team was the best, and that never went down well at Arsenal.

'These things irritate players.'

But Robert, what are you talking about? I think your first defeat against us was the 6-1 drubbing at Old Trafford, after which our mighty team went 16 points clear in the league.

What should have Ferguson said? 'Oh, monsieur Wenger, your team is fantastic, their sheer breathtaking quality was obvious from the way they only conceded one in the second half. I admit that though we're going to win the league by a mile, your team is so much better.'

And anyway wasn't Robert Pires the cornerstone of the Arsenal side that proclaimed itself perfect and invincible in 2002?

A classic Pires quote after their win at Old Trafford in the FA Cup in February 2003: 'The truth was on the pitch where we beat them on their own ground and made them look ridiculous.'

Not arrogant, isn't it? He's so modest he's stretching the meaning of the word itself. But go on, he's got more things to say.

'Wenger would just ask us to be calm and to play with our usual style and not to be affected by the opposition.

'He would tell us that he knew what United would do but that we had to be professional. He badly wanted us to beat them.'

Yes, it was obvious. Especially in the 2005 FA Cup final. The lovable professionals of Arsenal, whinging all the way before the game that United would try to rough them, set out to defend in numbers and tried to kick us off the park. Only Vieira had been sent off though Cole's lunge on Rooney and any of Lauren's and Reyes' tackle should have warranted a red.

Of course their whining always worked and that's why I despised that team. They made everyone believe they play the best football on Earth and someone who dared not to tremble with fear at the sight of them was a bully, rough, unprofessional. And the referees duly accepted these rules and punished everyone accordingly. They still moan about the ending of their 49-game unbeaten run but somehow fail to mention their disgraceful actions a year earlier, hitting Ruud for missing a penalty... disgrace.

And though the current Arsenal is almost a likeable team, this theme is still there. They play fantastic football but suffer from others' excessive physical play. God, Robert, if you felt like that why didn't you choose the ballet? There's no physicality there. And if you look at the card stats of the season 2001/02, you will realise why it's hypocrisy in the extreme by any Arsenal player of that time to accuse others of being rough and employing intimidating tactics.

Rant over. Sorry everyone but the sight of Pires' arrogant, smug face always drove me mad and especially if I read him talking about others being arrogant. Hope for a good, Piresless game tomorrow.

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Writer: Zae Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday November 2 2007

Time: 10:23AM

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You really need to get out more.
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02/11/2007 10:40:00

Of course united were overly aggressive and kicked and fouled. You were no match for us creatively back then and its what you had to resort too..
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02/11/2007 10:41:00

wanted to get upset about this one and have a little rant but to be quite honest you've got a point! But just like you love Fergie and Chavs love Jose, we all love Bobby for his sheer self delusion. Wonderful stuff!
kenny lunt
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02/11/2007 10:43:00

pathetic site.. waste of time..
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02/11/2007 10:52:00

You ever wondered why you get so few hits on this site?? Just read the s*** you have written above & all should become clear!! However arrogant Pires was/is, he will never be able to touch Roy Keane & his famous "we will go a whole season unbeaten".........Speaking of which, how is that going?? You managed a league season unbeaten yet?? No, well never mind, there is always this current season...........Sorry, I had forgotten you have already lost to the real Manchester club!!
Ashburton Gooner
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02/11/2007 10:56:00

How to tell Arsenal are a feared team again in one easy step: Man Uts fans start to slag you off!! It's good to be hated again!!
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02/11/2007 11:26:00

I think the gooners are just starting to wobble, the thrashing they are going to get this weekend will make that more apparant to the short sited
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02/11/2007 11:29:00

See you at The Grove Skylab. Altho' you'll probably be in front of your t.v like the rest of your ilk.
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02/11/2007 11:38:00

Like Kenny I was contemplating a rant, but I have to say seeing the ManYooSA mob whinging about our Bobby only makes me think - thanks for the memories Bobby - you are a legend !
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02/11/2007 11:40:00

"Short sited" - good one Skylab. ;))
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02/11/2007 11:57:00

rocky said it best bring on the hate...skylab this is the type of talk that has spurred the young gunners on. keep talking like that all the way to our league title.
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02/11/2007 12:05:00

Man Utd are a great team and have a great history. i don't resent them spending money as they have earnt it and if you have an advantage you'd be cheating yourself for not using it. However the one thing i would say is do you think this rant was born out of a little comment by Bobby or the fact that the season has started, united have whacked another shed load of money, arsenal have turned a 15 million profit and all everyone can say is we play the best football in the league and deserve to be top. I think maybe you are a little ashamed and probably look at your boss as being the greatest in your clubs history and think, if only we had Arsene Wenger.
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02/11/2007 12:07:00

This 'rant' is pretty laughable. Pires has a point - towards the end, ManU seemed to want to kick Arsenal off the park in order to stifle Arsenal's style of play. But Rocky - well said. A challenge is well and truly on.
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02/11/2007 12:45:00

Pires talking about others using "excessive strength" , Gerrard telling Torres to cut diving because he hates it. Soon you'll see a headline : " Mourinho : 'I hate people who think they're special'"
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02/11/2007 13:26:00

Arsenal in denial, made me chuckle!
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02/11/2007 16:52:00

see the Arse boys have invaded spouting their usual crap! Just ask them who's had the most red cards in the last ten years!
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02/11/2007 19:42:00

Manchester (via Tampa Bay) USA - biggest ****s ever!
Ozi Gooner
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03/11/2007 02:57:00

Seeing as you asked merlin - Everton have the most red cards over the last 10 years with 46, Blackburn are 2nd with 43 and Newcastle 3rd with 36. Anything else we can help you with?
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03/11/2007 10:32:00

The team that most conceded goals ever please. :-)
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03/11/2007 10:50:00


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