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United - Is it the System?

A prominent former United player reckons it is!

Our poor, no shocking, start to the season whereby we`ve taken one point from the six available, in the Premier League, whilst also having seen our hopes of winning the Capital One Cup obliterated by League One MK Dons, has generated numerous column inches.

Everybody appears to be, after such a dominant pre-season, puzzled as to why Manchester United are struggling so badly.

Okay, perhaps there is disappointment in the air that, once again, we`re scrambling around for signings as the transfer window closure threatens and okay we`ve been troubled by injury, but is there a simpler explanation to be had?

Paul Scholes, who seems to have plenty to say for himself since retiring as a player, reckon sit is all down to the new system Louis Van Gaal has decided to employ. Scholes is of the opinion that is the change in tactics is the reason why we`ve become so porous defensively.

Is he correct or have you another reason you`d like to put up for debate?

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

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Writer: Red Boy Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday August 28 2014

Time: 7:47AM

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It won't just be the system its probably not helping but it can't be solely to blame. We're just on the receiving end of a 5hitstorm combination of half arsed/useless players, a new system, a new regime and a boat load of cripples. Given time for the team to settle the injuries to subside and a few new faces we should be fine. Everyone seems to be forgetting that if we had the players we wouldn't be playing 352 we'd be probably playing 433.
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28/08/2014 08:51:00

Motors not wrong in saying it's not solely down to the formation. For me though during this tough spell of low confidence, fractured mentality and transition the last thing the players need is to have to re-learn their roles and positions in a new formation on top of it. No doubt Van Gaal will persist with the 3-5-2 and hopefully it proves fruitful but I just can't see it myself.

I know he said we didn't have the tools for a 4-3-3 and at the time it was a fair critique but now that we've got a world class winger i'm not buying it. You could have 2 at the back from Evans, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Blackett or Keane. A right back from Rafael, Jones or Valencia. A left back from Shaw, Rojo or Young. 3 in midfield from Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini, Herrera, Rooney, Di Maria. 2 wingers from Di Maria, Januzaj, Valencia, Young and then a forward of RVP, Rooney, Hernandez or Welbeck.
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28/08/2014 10:43:00

System or not, when your defence is of a mid table standard you are going to lose games that you shouldn't and right now our defence is poor. If we are playing 3 CBs you would imagine we would concede less and not lose games but we are, I can't see how switching to 2 CB's would help considering the options that we have available to us. Personally I do not like the 352 system, I'd prefer a 4231 (wide) but whatever system we play we will end up leaving out Rooney or Mata or Di Maria, we need defenders in strong physical ones who can lead from the back, like Vidic did until that happens we'll concede soft gaols and whatever advantage our forward players give us is mute when you have a shoddy defence. We have had a few bad injuries and we are still hamstrung by some absolutely crap players. Unlike the Moyes era I still feel confident that we have someone who can address the problems. I can see us switching to a 4231 (Narrow 3) with 3 players Di Maria, Rooney, Mata playing in behind RVP maybe given licence to roam out wide when needed.
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28/08/2014 11:10:00

Is not just that the defence is crap they have no cover we need a defensive midfielder. It isn't helping every time an opponent attacks they utterly bypass midfield straight onto an invariably out of position defence. Not being able to string two passes together doesn't help either.
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28/08/2014 11:54:00

I agree our def mid options are shockingly bad but it has been like that for a long time. Our defence shouldn't have much to do in a game against Swansea or Sunderland but when they are called upon they are utter crap.At the back we are lacking in confidence and leadership. Vidal is a priority, as is a strong centre back however the options we have left ourselves are very limiting, we've seen Mangala, Lovren and Benatia sold by their respective clubs and were we even sniffing around them?
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28/08/2014 15:19:00

I'm only here because of the Cleverley-to-Villa rumours, but I have to say, as an outsider with no axe to grind (apart from getting our arses handed to us twice a year for the past 20-odd years!) your main problem is definitely the defence and lack of a shield for them. Evans (and Jones, I would argue) are not good enough to base a title winning side upon, and although you've signed Rojo (now, where did I put that Work Permit??) and Luke Shaw (a real 'one for the FUTURE'), spunking near-on 60m on di Maria just doesn't make sense to me. He's a fine player, but surely more the 'cherry on top' type? If you can get William Carvalho (or Vidal maybe), and a decent centre-back to go with Rojo (Vlaar maybe?) then you might just get that show on the road. I hope so - we need as many strong teams as possible in the Premier League (and Europe), and United are far too big to stay away for long.
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28/08/2014 20:35:00


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