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Chelsea 2 United 3

United closed the gap to a single point at the top of the table with a win at Stamford Bridge this afternoon.

However the game wasn`t without controversy with our hosts being reduced to nine men in the second half.

For the fixture, Sir Alex decided to revert to playing with two wide-men with Young and Valencia in the starting line-up.

Attacking the Shed End, United got off to a great start, taking the lead after just 3 minutes when Rafael and Young combined to make use of the space down the right flank. When Young played the ball in Van Persie`s shot smacked against the post before hitting David Luiz and beating Cech.

With twelve minutes gone the lead was doubled. This time it was Valencia who utilised the space down that same open flank before providing the perfect cross for Van Persie to hit his shot home from seven yards out.

All credit to Chelsea though who refused to drop their heads and our hosts struck back. De Gea pulled off a save with his leg after a David Luiz shot dipped and swerved, from a free kick. The Spaniard then performed wonders to claw away a header from Torres that had goal written all over it. But the defence was breached just before half time when Rooney fouled Ramires and from the resulting free kick, Juan Mata showed his precise finishing by giving De Gea no chance from twenty yards out.

But De Gea did keep us ahead with a great stop from Mata as Chelsea carved our defence open one last time before the break.

Our hosts started the second half brightly and were level nine minutes into the half. Oscar delivered the ball deep to Mata who, with decent control, pulled it down and then played it back across the six yard box, it reached Hazard and his cross was headed home by Ramires.

At 2-2 you favoured Chelsea to nick this one but our hosts self-imploded. First, as Young burst through, in the 63rd minute, Ivanovic clipped his heels and was shown a red card and then six minutes later Torres followed him down the tunnel after receiving a second yellow card, the second one for diving after a tackle from Evans, for those who thought it unfair, just remember this was the same Torres who had felled Cleverley with a chest high challenge late in the first half.

With a two man advantage, it was only a matter of time for United and when Sir Alex threw on Hernandez you just had an inkling he`d get the winner and that was just the case when he turned in a hard hit cross from Giggs.

Chelsea didn`t give up though and pushed hard for an equaliser but United held firm and could have extended their lead late on. Full credit to both sides though with both proving they`ll be in the title race come May.




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Writer: Red Boy Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday October 28 2012

Time: 7:18PM

Your Comments

I'm not surprised Van Persie wanted to join United so badly. Trophies there are guaranteed, not because you are a brilliant bunch, but because referees seem to have an agenda against every team that plays against you. "just remember this was the same Torres who had felled Cleverley with a chest high challenge late in the first half" So what? Tell me exactly what the point is. As Gary Neville said, two bad decisions don't make one good in the end. It will still be remembered as two bad breaks rather than one which corrected another. Disgraceful piece of refereeing, which annihiliated a good game of footy. And, honestly, I admire the guy for his achievements and his passion for the game, but at 70-something years of age, more than 25 years of experience, can't Sir Alex have some farking dignity and stop acting like a chubby cake boy? The spat he had with Di Matteo seemed to have no justification at all - there was no red card, no foul, nothing. Just Sturridge who was going to come on. The only thing I can see is that he obviously had a problem with Sturridge or something.
FrLamp
I'm not surprised Van Persie wanted to join United so badly. Trophies there are guaranteed, not because you are a brilliant bunch, but because referees seem to have an agenda against every team that plays against you. "just remember this was the same Torres who had felled Cleverley with a chest high challenge late in the first half" So what? Tell me exactly what the point is. As Gary Neville said, two bad decisions don't make one good in the end. It will still be remembered as two bad breaks rather than one which corrected another. Disgraceful piece of refereeing, which annihiliated a good game of footy. And, honestly, I admire the guy for his achievements and his passion for the game, but at 70-something years of age, more than 25 years of experience, can't Sir Alex have some farking dignity and stop acting like a chubby cake boy? The spat he had with Di Matteo seemed to have no justification at all - there was no red card, no foul, nothing. Just Sturridge who was going to come on. The only thing I can see is that he obviously had a problem with Sturridge or something.
FrLamp
''chubby cake boy'' lol
suppahigh
''chubby cake boy'' lol
suppahigh
@ red boy - you should add Clattenburg to your MOTM poll. my vote goes to him
suppahigh
@ red boy - you should add Clattenburg to your MOTM poll. my vote goes to him
suppahigh
Hmm, when Chelsea win by decisions in their favour what is it you see as terse all over vitalchelsea, carefree is it? Laughable that you come out bitching to no end when a decisions goes against you and cry for justice but when things go in your favour you don't join the protests of the other team. Ultimately, Chelsea were poor to begin with and were punished for it, they got a goal but who's to say that would've been the case had Torres correctly been sent off in the first place. No doubt had Chelsea won 3-2 and Torres weren't sent off for his red card worthy challenge no-one would've cared but because its us its all arms on deck the ABU brigade begin. Never happy to win like that but find it infuriating people get on a high horse about decisions that happen in every game, every season in every division in every league all over the world but conveniently stay quiet when it's in their favour.
TheFamousNo7
Hmm, when Chelsea win by decisions in their favour what is it you see as terse all over vitalchelsea, carefree is it? Laughable that you come out bitching to no end when a decisions goes against you and cry for justice but when things go in your favour you don't join the protests of the other team. Ultimately, Chelsea were poor to begin with and were punished for it, they got a goal but who's to say that would've been the case had Torres correctly been sent off in the first place. No doubt had Chelsea won 3-2 and Torres weren't sent off for his red card worthy challenge no-one would've cared but because its us its all arms on deck the ABU brigade begin. Never happy to win like that but find it infuriating people get on a high horse about decisions that happen in every game, every season in every division in every league all over the world but conveniently stay quiet when it's in their favour.
TheFamousNo7
Also, Fergie isn't the best loser, nor exactly the best winner but to start pointing out his flaws when Di Matteo was far from a model professional during the game is ridiculous. Fergie gave the ball for Valencia to throw in and Di Matteo tried grabbing the ball from him to prevent the counter-attack from happening, so much so that he actually ran out of the technical area.
TheFamousNo7
Also, Fergie isn't the best loser, nor exactly the best winner but to start pointing out his flaws when Di Matteo was far from a model professional during the game is ridiculous. Fergie gave the ball for Valencia to throw in and Di Matteo tried grabbing the ball from him to prevent the counter-attack from happening, so much so that he actually ran out of the technical area.
TheFamousNo7
As for the game, I thought we were poor. We went 2 goals up and then set out to defend for 90 minutes something only Chelsea in the champions league can do. We're at our best when we're attacking so we should've continued to play to our strength, especially seeing as I firmly believe we have a side capable of suing Chelsea off the park. That was our get out of jail card this season. De Gea was superb and kept us in it at times. Rooney showed why he could be our future captain and the midfield maestro we need. His defensive and attacking effort was brilliant just needs to be a bit more careful and admit to the position more. I loved how he commanded Evra to get back into position and track his man. RVP class as always.
TheFamousNo7
As for the game, I thought we were poor. We went 2 goals up and then set out to defend for 90 minutes something only Chelsea in the champions league can do. We're at our best when we're attacking so we should've continued to play to our strength, especially seeing as I firmly believe we have a side capable of suing Chelsea off the park. That was our get out of jail card this season. De Gea was superb and kept us in it at times. Rooney showed why he could be our future captain and the midfield maestro we need. His defensive and attacking effort was brilliant just needs to be a bit more careful and admit to the position more. I loved how he commanded Evra to get back into position and track his man. RVP class as always.
TheFamousNo7
How many times do these controversial decisions favour U*d? It's ridiculous. Do you not get embarrassed by how much the officials look after you?
Bluedub
How many times do these controversial decisions favour U*d? It's ridiculous. Do you not get embarrassed by how much the officials look after you?
Bluedub
manchester united - the world champions of coincidences.

http://diminbeirut.typepad.com/my-blog/2012/10/the-whole-worlds-watching.html
fifthcolumnblue
manchester united - the world champions of coincidences.

http://diminbeirut.typepad.com/my-blog/2012/10/the-whole-worlds-watching.html
fifthcolumnblue
Bluedub what's ridiculous is fans like yourself who don't say anything when a game like Westbrom v Wigan has a dodgy decision in it and you don't cry for fair refereeing then but when a game like Cheslea v Man U has a dodgy decision in it you feel the need to get on a moral high ground and lead the cause for decent refereeing solely because its united. I wonder if you'd be on vitalchelsea had they Won 3-2 from a torres goal when he should've been sent off for an early red card worthy foul on cleverley? No need to answer that question as in fairly certain i know the answer. I'm all for fair refereeing than the bog-standard we're forced to endure in the premier league, heck at least I can say it when we're on both the wrong and right side of decisions unlike most fans who are quiet when they get a decision in their favour but cause an uproar when they're not.
TheFamousNo7
Bluedub what's ridiculous is fans like yourself who don't say anything when a game like Westbrom v Wigan has a dodgy decision in it and you don't cry for fair refereeing then but when a game like Cheslea v Man U has a dodgy decision in it you feel the need to get on a moral high ground and lead the cause for decent refereeing solely because its united. I wonder if you'd be on vitalchelsea had they Won 3-2 from a torres goal when he should've been sent off for an early red card worthy foul on cleverley? No need to answer that question as in fairly certain i know the answer. I'm all for fair refereeing than the bog-standard we're forced to endure in the premier league, heck at least I can say it when we're on both the wrong and right side of decisions unlike most fans who are quiet when they get a decision in their favour but cause an uproar when they're not.
TheFamousNo7
TFN7 - Going by your logic you might as well ask yourself when, for Satan's sake, will it end? You've had lucky breaks against us, we've had some against you as well. So what, everytime you have one against us you'll come up with the last one we've had against you and use it as a payback justification? We were fortunate to have a penalty two years ago at the Bridge. All right. You were fortunate to have two offside goals allowed against us at Old Trafford last year. We were fortunate that Drogba's offside goal at Old Trafford did go unnoticed but you were also fortunate that Macheda's handball did go unnoticed too in that same game. You were fortunate to get a penalty off Ivanovic last year at the Bridge. We were fortunate with that Terry goal at the Bridge three years ago as I felt that Drogba did foul one of your players. And you were also fortunate not to lose Evans through a red card in that same game after his muay thaļ kick on Drogba (in fact Drogba got a yellow card for acting). See? You've had tons of lucky breaks against us, we got as well. Thing is, it has to stop one day or another.
FrLamp
TFN7 - Going by your logic you might as well ask yourself when, for Satan's sake, will it end? You've had lucky breaks against us, we've had some against you as well. So what, everytime you have one against us you'll come up with the last one we've had against you and use it as a payback justification? We were fortunate to have a penalty two years ago at the Bridge. All right. You were fortunate to have two offside goals allowed against us at Old Trafford last year. We were fortunate that Drogba's offside goal at Old Trafford did go unnoticed but you were also fortunate that Macheda's handball did go unnoticed too in that same game. You were fortunate to get a penalty off Ivanovic last year at the Bridge. We were fortunate with that Terry goal at the Bridge three years ago as I felt that Drogba did foul one of your players. And you were also fortunate not to lose Evans through a red card in that same game after his muay thaļ kick on Drogba (in fact Drogba got a yellow card for acting). See? You've had tons of lucky breaks against us, we got as well. Thing is, it has to stop one day or another.
FrLamp
Still in denial Famous? Seems to be a common theme amongst united fans.
fifthcolumnblue
Still in denial Famous? Seems to be a common theme amongst united fans.
fifthcolumnblue
Have your pathetic little club ever won a trophy without referee's help? You know the answer. It is a BIG FAT "NO". What a disgrace that referee was. But Utd fans are more disgrace who are defending this win. You should be shamed of this win.
Keyser Soze
Sorry Famous but you couldn't be more wrong in the assumptions you make of my character. I will call up a referee on an error that I've seen no matter what team is playing, in fact if you look on VitalCity forum you will see a thread I started yesterday highlighting the unfair yellow card that Rangel received for supposed simulation. These errors do happen, referees are human, they can't get everything right all of the time BUT the frequency with which the controversial decisions go in U*d's favour is farcical.
Bluedub
Sorry Famous but you couldn't be more wrong in the assumptions you make of my character. I will call up a referee on an error that I've seen no matter what team is playing, in fact if you look on VitalCity forum you will see a thread I started yesterday highlighting the unfair yellow card that Rangel received for supposed simulation. These errors do happen, referees are human, they can't get everything right all of the time BUT the frequency with which the controversial decisions go in U*d's favour is farcical.
Bluedub
Have your pathetic little club ever won a trophy without referee's help? You know the answer. It is a BIG FAT "NO". What a disgrace that referee was. But Utd fans are more disgrace who are defending this win. You should be shamed of this win.
Keyser Soze
Even with 10 men we were hammering this pathetic club. When Torres was shown red it became 9 vs 15. Still they needed an offside goal to win it. What a joke of a club. I am proud of how our boys performed even with 9 men. I now know how horrible it can be a Manure fan. I am delighted I am not a fan of this dirty little club.
Keyser Soze
Even with 10 men we were hammering this pathetic club. When Torres was shown red it became 9 vs 15. Still they needed an offside goal to win it. What a joke of a club. I am proud of how our boys performed even with 9 men. I now know how horrible it can be a Manure fan. I am delighted I am not a fan of this dirty little club.
Keyser Soze
Torres should not have got a 2nd yellow - but Ivanovic decision was right - Keyser Soze - we are not a 'dirty little club' at all - we are a successful club - and tbh how the hell you guys can say officials are in our pockets is beyond me - yes we got the run of the green today - but have not done in past encounters..... I am not ashamed of the win - I thought we deserved it to be honest - Chica was lucky with an offside goal - but then again look at mid week - he should have hat trick - but for an offside that went against that clearly wasn't - conspiracy theories are bull***** and its bad vibes cos you lost that you are spouting this $h1t - also FCB hiya bud long time no see........
niteworlok
Torres should not have got a 2nd yellow - but Ivanovic decision was right - Keyser Soze - we are not a 'dirty little club' at all - we are a successful club - and tbh how the hell you guys can say officials are in our pockets is beyond me - yes we got the run of the green today - but have not done in past encounters..... I am not ashamed of the win - I thought we deserved it to be honest - Chica was lucky with an offside goal - but then again look at mid week - he should have hat trick - but for an offside that went against that clearly wasn't - conspiracy theories are bull***** and its bad vibes cos you lost that you are spouting this $h1t - also FCB hiya bud long time no see........
niteworlok
Chica was lucky with an offside goal - but then again look at mid week? Tell me in God's name what the fark does your Champions League game have ANYTHING to do with today?
FrLamp
Chica was lucky with an offside goal - but then again look at mid week? Tell me in God's name what the fark does your Champions League game have ANYTHING to do with today?
FrLamp
Keyser one could argue it took Torres not getting the red he deserved for Cheslea to get back in it. Once again, doubt you were ever ashamed when you won under fortunate circumstances. Might want to lay off the little club talk considering you were one before you became a billionaires play thing. Just bitter that you lost mate, wouldn't of been bitching had you won from an offside goal, you would've just seen CARE FREE plastered all over vitalchelsea. FrLamp I get and agree with what you're saying but what I'm saying is it will only stop is when football fans all together sit there and say its not right and every game should be just and fair rather than the ones in which contentious decisions robbed them. Until that day when both the victim and beneficiary of a dodgy decision speak out against it it will just keep on being swept under the carpet as, "one of those things" or "it all evens out at the end of the season". Fair play Bluedub sorry if I came to the wrong assumptions just fed up of the fair weather fans who only make an appearance when it involves united getting something go in their favour, like I said, the same fans who would condemn us but not pay any attention to any other wrong or contentious calls. I've got no issues admitting we get more calls for us rather than against us, it's ultimately the repercussion of the pressure placed on the ref from Fergies mind games, it's not right but its not corrupt, I've heard Rodgers and Moyes both trying to do the same this week and numerous other managers before. Ultimately though the most impartial fan will see that bad calls are made in every game everywhere and will call for justice on all levels all the time rather than just when it's highlighted because its united. The most impartial fan will also see that the 'bigger' side, or the home team are far more likely to get decisions go in their favour.
TheFamousNo7
Keyser one could argue it took Torres not getting the red he deserved for Cheslea to get back in it. Once again, doubt you were ever ashamed when you won under fortunate circumstances. Might want to lay off the little club talk considering you were one before you became a billionaires play thing. Just bitter that you lost mate, wouldn't of been bitching had you won from an offside goal, you would've just seen CARE FREE plastered all over vitalchelsea. FrLamp I get and agree with what you're saying but what I'm saying is it will only stop is when football fans all together sit there and say its not right and every game should be just and fair rather than the ones in which contentious decisions robbed them. Until that day when both the victim and beneficiary of a dodgy decision speak out against it it will just keep on being swept under the carpet as, "one of those things" or "it all evens out at the end of the season". Fair play Bluedub sorry if I came to the wrong assumptions just fed up of the fair weather fans who only make an appearance when it involves united getting something go in their favour, like I said, the same fans who would condemn us but not pay any attention to any other wrong or contentious calls. I've got no issues admitting we get more calls for us rather than against us, it's ultimately the repercussion of the pressure placed on the ref from Fergies mind games, it's not right but its not corrupt, I've heard Rodgers and Moyes both trying to do the same this week and numerous other managers before. Ultimately though the most impartial fan will see that bad calls are made in every game everywhere and will call for justice on all levels all the time rather than just when it's highlighted because its united. The most impartial fan will also see that the 'bigger' side, or the home team are far more likely to get decisions go in their favour.
TheFamousNo7
i am disappointed with man utd and it's fans for tagging this victory "deserved" the refferee is a disgrace to the game, it was a defeat for football as the better team with 9 men lost. Should man utd win this league, i'll quit watching football.
torvicson
i am disappointed with man utd and it's fans for tagging this victory "deserved" the refferee is a disgrace to the game, it was a defeat for football as the better team with 9 men lost. Should man utd win this league, i'll quit watching football.
torvicson
i am disappointed with man utd and it's fans for tagging this victory "deserved" the refferee is a disgrace to the game, it was a defeat for football as the better team with 9 men lost. Should man utd win this league, i'll quit watching football.
torvicson
i am disappointed with man utd and it's fans for tagging this victory "deserved" the refferee is a disgrace to the game, it was a defeat for football as the better team with 9 men lost. Should man utd win this league, i'll quit watching football.
torvicson
most of manures trophies are tainted. the refs just happen to bail them out every time they are in deep ****
LampardsRightFoot
most of manures trophies are tainted. the refs just happen to bail them out every time they are in deep ****
LampardsRightFoot
TheFamousNo7, see you did not get my point. You are still in denial as typical of a manure fan. It is not winning or losing, I highlighted the fact Manure fans are defending this win. 3 big decision went against us. Ivanovic Red was not clear, he had minimal contact with Ashley Young (probably the greatest diver) the contact was less than Torres incident. We were spanking your sorry team before that. I could have understood the offside goal to be allowed but it is the Red cards that killed. You lot accuse us and Man city of buying players so buying success. You lot buy referees. At least we make it transparent. Buying referee and defending this kind of win is nothing sort of disgusting. But, guess what, like last season you are not winning anything. It will be Chelsea and Man city for title. Still top of the table. Eat that.
Keyser Soze
TheFamousNo7, see you did not get my point. You are still in denial as typical of a manure fan. It is not winning or losing, I highlighted the fact Manure fans are defending this win. 3 big decision went against us. Ivanovic Red was not clear, he had minimal contact with Ashley Young (probably the greatest diver) the contact was less than Torres incident. We were spanking your sorry team before that. I could have understood the offside goal to be allowed but it is the Red cards that killed. You lot accuse us and Man city of buying players so buying success. You lot buy referees. At least we make it transparent. Buying referee and defending this kind of win is nothing sort of disgusting. But, guess what, like last season you are not winning anything. It will be Chelsea and Man city for title. Still top of the table. Eat that.
Keyser Soze
Keys there's no argument whatsoever that Ivanovics foul was worthy of a red, youngs clean through on goal, Ivanovic cut across and caught him because of it sending him tumbling thus denying a clear goal scoring opportunity so by the rule book it's a red and his got to go. I can't see an argument against it to be honest. Torres' red is only a red that should've occurred earlier on in the game so there's no misjustice there, in fact due to it he will only get a one match ban rather than the 3 he should've got for his chest high challenge on Cleverley. The only really contentious overall outcome was an offside goal in our favour. Laughable that a Chelsea fan is saying a united fan is buying success, especially when they get more than there fair share of decision go there way. You know what, you keep believing you've been wronged whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid the fact that we turned you over at you're beloved Stamford bridge. CARE FREE
TheFamousNo7
Keys there's no argument whatsoever that Ivanovics foul was worthy of a red, youngs clean through on goal, Ivanovic cut across and caught him because of it sending him tumbling thus denying a clear goal scoring opportunity so by the rule book it's a red and his got to go. I can't see an argument against it to be honest. Torres' red is only a red that should've occurred earlier on in the game so there's no misjustice there, in fact due to it he will only get a one match ban rather than the 3 he should've got for his chest high challenge on Cleverley. The only really contentious overall outcome was an offside goal in our favour. Laughable that a Chelsea fan is saying a united fan is buying success, especially when they get more than there fair share of decision go there way. You know what, you keep believing you've been wronged whatever helps you sleep at night and avoid the fact that we turned you over at you're beloved Stamford bridge. CARE FREE
TheFamousNo7
This is not nor has it ever been Manchester United, the true name is The FA...for now and all time your team will be known as the FA...jokes, look these things happen, granted they almost always favor united, and mostly happen with a british ref in the BPL but hey the better team won right....right? The Famous fella yeah you turned us over at the bridge, it was glaringly obvious that you were the better team, you deserved to win...hope you can sleep better with that knowledge there was Uefalona, now there's FA United.
Gian-Franco/Luca
This is not nor has it ever been Manchester United, the true name is The FA...for now and all time your team will be known as the FA...jokes, look these things happen, granted they almost always favor united, and mostly happen with a british ref in the BPL but hey the better team won right....right? The Famous fella yeah you turned us over at the bridge, it was glaringly obvious that you were the better team, you deserved to win...hope you can sleep better with that knowledge there was Uefalona, now there's FA United.
Gian-Franco/Luca
FRLamps - well it shows perfectly that sometimes decisions go against us that are wrong - so it has a lot to do with what you lot are saying - that decisions go for us all the time..........
niteworlok
FRLamps - well it shows perfectly that sometimes decisions go against us that are wrong - so it has a lot to do with what you lot are saying - that decisions go for us all the time..........
niteworlok
Good old uncle clattenburg have to get him a pint in :-P no mention of the constant booing of Rio I see classy
MotorMad
Good old uncle clattenburg have to get him a pint in :-P no mention of the constant booing of Rio I see classy
MotorMad
Boo Ferdinand, Boo Clattenburg, Boo Manure. Booooooooo.
Keyser Soze
Boo Ferdinand, Boo Clattenburg, Boo Manure. Booooooooo.
Keyser Soze
You've had one big decision going your way against Newcastle. Two big ones against Liverpool. Two big ones against us today. 3 games out of 9. This is farking too much already. And tell me what the hell is Gill doing at the FA?
FrLamp
You've had one big decision going your way against Newcastle. Two big ones against Liverpool. Two big ones against us today. 3 games out of 9. This is farking too much already. And tell me what the hell is Gill doing at the FA?
FrLamp
Gills at the fa to make sure even more decisions go our way three out of nine games isn't enough
MotorMad
Gills at the fa to make sure even more decisions go our way three out of nine games isn't enough
MotorMad
we hate man u coz we hate man u we hate man u coz we hate man u we hate man u coz we hate man u we are the man u haters!!!!!!!!!
superfreakyjay
we hate man u coz we hate man u we hate man u coz we hate man u we hate man u coz we hate man u we are the man u haters!!!!!!!!!
superfreakyjay
Boo scum Chelski fans who threw things on the pitch and injured one of their own stewards!!!!!
niteworlok
Boo scum Chelski fans who threw things on the pitch and injured one of their own stewards!!!!!
niteworlok
Every Man U fans must read this article: http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/chelsea-fans-heres-the-evidence-of-the-manchester-united-referee-conspiracy/?
EliteBlue
Every Man U fans must read this article: http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/chelsea-fans-heres-the-evidence-of-the-manchester-united-referee-conspiracy/?
EliteBlue
Oh dear EliteBlue - it really is sad that you lot can't take a defeat in a game of football - yes we were lucky to get the decisions go for us - but at the end of the day this bull$h1t about reffing conspiracy theories........ for gods sake there is NO conspiracy
niteworlok
Oh dear EliteBlue - it really is sad that you lot can't take a defeat in a game of football - yes we were lucky to get the decisions go for us - but at the end of the day this bull$h1t about reffing conspiracy theories........ for gods sake there is NO conspiracy
niteworlok
niteworlok real name is mark clattenburg
superfreakyjay
niteworlok real name is mark clattenburg
superfreakyjay
@Niteworlok, I agree that talk of conspiracy or corruption is perhaps going a bit ott but can you understand why eyebrows are raised with the frequency that these controversial decisions go in U*d's favour? Perhaps if there was a bit more transparency from the PGMO as to how officials are selected and also some evidence of accountability for some of the inept performances from officials may stop or even dampen these conspiracy theories.
Bluedub
@Niteworlok, I agree that talk of conspiracy or corruption is perhaps going a bit ott but can you understand why eyebrows are raised with the frequency that these controversial decisions go in U*d's favour? Perhaps if there was a bit more transparency from the PGMO as to how officials are selected and also some evidence of accountability for some of the inept performances from officials may stop or even dampen these conspiracy theories.
Bluedub
@superfreakyjay - nope - I am not Mark Clattenburg - in fact many older members will remember me from a few years ago posting in here
Bluedub - yes we were very lucky to have the Torres sending off and the offside goal to stand - and Evans should have had a yellow - but who is to say that if Torres hadn't been sent off that Chelsea would have still won - the Ivanovic sending off was the thing that turned it in our favour and I do believe we would have still won the game of Torres had not been carded
niteworlok
@superfreakyjay - nope - I am not Mark Clattenburg - in fact many older members will remember me from a few years ago posting in here
Bluedub - yes we were very lucky to have the Torres sending off and the offside goal to stand - and Evans should have had a yellow - but who is to say that if Torres hadn't been sent off that Chelsea would have still won - the Ivanovic sending off was the thing that turned it in our favour and I do believe we would have still won the game of Torres had not been carded
niteworlok
Now - if Clattenburg racially abused a player then he deserves the book throwing at him - if it was just your normal football pitch swearing, then both sets of players need to look at themselves and think 'Is this the way to conduct myself on a pitch in front of a nation when youngsters are watching'? I am all for refs carding players for swearing as you can clearly see Obi Mikel effing and blinding at the ref constantly when he got pulled up on his tackles.
niteworlok
Now - if Clattenburg racially abused a player then he deserves the book throwing at him - if it was just your normal football pitch swearing, then both sets of players need to look at themselves and think 'Is this the way to conduct myself on a pitch in front of a nation when youngsters are watching'? I am all for refs carding players for swearing as you can clearly see Obi Mikel effing and blinding at the ref constantly when he got pulled up on his tackles.
niteworlok
you beleave you would have one the game against ten men but you couldn't score a legit goal against nine men
superfreakyjay
you beleave you would have one the game against ten men but you couldn't score a legit goal against nine men
superfreakyjay
Keep taking the pills superfreakyjay they might work one day
MotorMad
Keep taking the pills superfreakyjay they might work one day
MotorMad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbKdTBVwpQ Karma is a bitch aint it.
nordkap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbKdTBVwpQ Karma is a bitch aint it.
nordkap
BOOM;-) Nordkap is back!!! How you keeping mate?
Bluedub
BOOM;-) Nordkap is back!!! How you keeping mate?
Bluedub
Show them for the hypocrites they are nordkap, don't expect to many to watch the video though, reasonable argument does bode well with a majority of the Chelsea support.
TheFamousNo7
Show them for the hypocrites they are nordkap, don't expect to many to watch the video though, reasonable argument does bode well with a majority of the Chelsea support.
TheFamousNo7
Ah come on Famous, reasonable argument and Nordkap go together like chalk and cheese.
Bluedub
Ah come on Famous, reasonable argument and Nordkap go together like chalk and cheese.
Bluedub
I remember that match - and I remember I just took the defeat and got on with it without bleating how crap the reffing in that game was - shame on Chelsea fans for being so blinkered....... KARMA!!!
niteworlok
I remember that match - and I remember I just took the defeat and got on with it without bleating how crap the reffing in that game was - shame on Chelsea fans for being so blinkered....... KARMA!!!
niteworlok
@superfreakjay your comment doesn't make sense ' you beleave you would have one the game against ten men but you couldn't score a legit goal against nine men superfreakyjay'. Does one mean won? Who is to say we wouldn't have scored a 'legit' goal anyway? As I have already said - we had the rub of the green with decisions in this match - but many of you Chelsea fans forget the very match Nordkap posted the video link for....
niteworlok
@superfreakjay your comment doesn't make sense ' you beleave you would have one the game against ten men but you couldn't score a legit goal against nine men superfreakyjay'. Does one mean won? Who is to say we wouldn't have scored a 'legit' goal anyway? As I have already said - we had the rub of the green with decisions in this match - but many of you Chelsea fans forget the very match Nordkap posted the video link for....
niteworlok
Couldn't score against 10 but put 2 past 11 just kind of blows that idea out of the window anyway...
TheFamousNo7
Couldn't score against 10 but put 2 past 11 just kind of blows that idea out of the window anyway...
TheFamousNo7
 

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