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United - Those Nani Theatrics

There`s no doubting it was a horrible challenge from Jamie Carragher and the referee, Phil Dowd, should have produced a red card, but the manner in which matters evolved left a lot to be desired.

Championed as a leader in the pre-match build up, Nani did himself no favours by jumping to his feet, to offer his protestations, before noticing that the claret was flowing and then, theatrically, falling down again before being carried away on a stretcher.

Now perhaps the adrenalin rush nullified the pain in the immediate aftermath, I don`t honestly know, but perhaps a better ploy would have been to simply lay there, gather your senses and then assess what damage had been done, not seek verbal retribution for a challenge that left every body in the vicinity wince and should have been dealt with far more effectively by Phil Dowd!




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Writer: Red Boy Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday March 7 2011

Time: 4:26PM

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I think the initial theatrics is a players way to let the ref know a foul has been performed. Honestly if a player didn't go down like a drama queen I genuinely believe ref's wouldn't give freekicks for technical fouls. The sport is becoming increasingly strict with it enforcement of the rules, so if the rules are making it more of a girly game then, as expected, the players act more girly. At the same time people might criticise Nani but forget Suarez exit from the pitch also which was also overly dramatic but he could still walk whereas Nani was stretchered off with a massive gash in his leg!
TheFamousNo7
Rooney with his swan flop vs Chelsea, Nani with his "I've been shot" antics... pathetic. Don't blame refs, they been on your side for years.
emigre
Getting some of your own medicine, too many refs have been blinded by Taggart over the years
Tiny T
First off let me say Carra should have been sent off. Horrible challenge. No real defence of it. But the way Nani reacted was both sad and bizarre. I don't blame players for going down when challenged, especially when the contact was so forceful, but the way he got up ran 10 yards to confront our players, then throw himself on the floor with a double somersault with double twist (slight exaggeration) was outrageous, and slightly funny! There seems to be a certain few foreign players who try and bend the rules past breaking point. It's very sad, as Nani is a very good player and doesn't need this attention seeking behaviour.
RafaTheGaffer
The reason Carragher got away with that horrible challenge was quite simply the way Nani reacted. The ref clearly thought he was play-acting and therefore the challenge wasn't that bad. Serves him right for trying to influence the ref, and Nani himself was lucky not to get sent off for his pushing of the ref. But hey, we see this type of crap from manure players time after time, yet get called ABU's or bitter when we object to it.
fifthcolumnblue
Trying to influence the ref? He had a chunk missing out of his leg. You having a laugh?
TheFamousNo7
Don't bite the bait, FCB obviously doesn't watch Chelsea matches. Drogba, Essien etc, and Saving Private Robben, are all classics. Luckily one of our worst ex-players for got sold for 50m 5 weeks ago.
RafaTheGaffer
Rafa he's a bitter blue not a chav blue which is even more laughable when you think about it.
TheFamousNo7
Im sick off seeing the likes of Gomes, Nani, Chamakh and everyones favourite moron Drogba acting in this way. Its pathetic.
HuddersfieldYiddo
So nani gets up and grabs the ref in protest - and the ref is supposed to think he needs hospital treatment? Sorry ladies, but this guy has all kinds of history as a diving, whining little cheat - he wants Carragher sent off he doesn't play Lazarus, simples.
fifthcolumnblue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XpEoCvW2Wo
fifthcolumnblue
Lady Karma has caught up with the dispicable little cretin. He didn't only shove the ref he also took a swipe at one of the St.John's Ambulance guys. Stop crying wolf Thriller, stop play acting and stop blubbing like a little girl and then maybe in the future you might get the justice you deserve with the likes of the Carragher challenge. Carry on acting like a complete ***** and you won't, simple as that really.
bluedub
Karma? Clutching at straws there bluedub. If it is the case then I guess we should prepare for financial dominance from financially crippled countries that have been exploited in the past. Then we will all wake up and realise we live in the real world where life isn't fair.
TheFamousNo7
Clutching at straws? In the context of football which is what we are talking about here TF7 what happened to Thriller is karma. Don't know why you're going on about the injustices in the worlds economics. He's a very talented player but he's one of the most despicable players in the PL. He's not alone in his cheating but he is the prime example of it in the PL.
bluedub
Point was karma is a load of b0ll0x bluedub and you're naive to believe justice balances itself in the end thus the: "Then we will all wake up and realise we live in the real world where life isn't fair." The example of world economics is to show how absurd the idea of karma is. OK Mr Literal?
TheFamousNo7
While you go on about Karma, which you will not prove if it exists or not, lets think of how we can help refs vs piling pressure on them whcih Fergie been doing for years. I'd say FA has to do what NHL does, review all incidents and punish those guilty. After all, we're all used to big brother watching us at all times, why not in football?
emigre
emigre, how's it fair that firstly Manager's should lie about a ref's performance to keep things cosy for FIFA? No complaints about ref's means no need for the implementation of technology to ensure mistakes don't occur. Manager's should be able to speak freely about their opinions of the ref. Any accusations of bias should be punished but if the ref had a 5hit game why can't we tell them so? Why's it seen as showing disrespect to the ref is you say "I think he got the decision wrong" or "he made a mountain out of a molehill", surely constructive criticism will help them iron out the mistakes they make in future? The way to help ref's and relieve the pressure of expectation is simple, technological assistance. It's no help at the end of a game e.g. say they brand Arshavins goal at the weekend not offside it doesn't help. Punishment retrospectively doesn't help either, the impact during a game (a sending off) and after the game (a ban) is different. A retrospective ban has no impact on the game that the incident occurred in, whilst if he got a red during the game then a number of possibile conclusions to the game is endless.
TheFamousNo7
Cuz every game will be like that. Refs are humans and will make mistakes, there is nothing really that helps them. Replays would help, but apparently it will take too long.. (not sold on that). What NHL does actually works. You might not get immediate satisfaction of red card, but tackle such as Carra's should not go unpunished. He'd get game or two suspension for carelessness (or call it idiocy, whatever) and perhaps think twice about such tackles again. That's the whole idea, if you know that there are extra eyes watching and reviewing, you'd probably think twice about giving someone elbow or dive. And yes, it won't change outcome of the game, but we'd ensure that cheaters can't get away with it.
emigre
Ok, he got his just desserts or it serves him right. Is that ok for you MR. LITERAL? Sigh!
Bluedub
Is it true that Nani's own brother is suing him? That loveable streak must run in the family.
fifthcolumnblue
emigre it's a good idea and any progress is good progress so I wouldn't be against the idea. I just feel some teams might feel aggrieved if for example Liverpool had to play us then Chelsea and during the game Carragher failed to get sent off affecting the game's outcome whilst the next game the FA decide to ban him and Chelsea get to play Liverpool without Carragher making their game much more easier and their title challenge easier.
TheFamousNo7
Interesting discussion you're having there about retrospective punshment. I have to say I agree with Emigre. TF7, I get what you're saying in your example about the team being weakened against your direct rivals in their next game, however red cards and subsequent bans are not there to punish teams,they're there to punish individuals. Also like to add that despite many a U*d fans protestations last week that if the ref deals with an incident at the time that it can not be dealt with retrospectively is bollox, it's not aFIFA rule as I heard many a rag saying, it's a guideline. In France there have been numerous examples of retrospective bans for incorrect calls by officials and recently in Italy Juve's Krasic received a ban for diving after the authorities reviewed video evidence. So, in short there is a precedent fir this, the English FA just hide behind FIFA's guidelines.
Bluedub
Bluedub the retrospective ban isn't unwritten however it does come under "very special circumstances" according to the FA (this was said when Blatter was right next to him, Blatters reaction - none). You wont catch me saying Rooney didn't deserve the red and would have no issue with him getting a retrospective punishment. Ref. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9415946.stm -------------------- Retrospective bans are a good idea and a start to a much fairer game, i'm just raising the issue that teams may feel disgruntled by it.
TheFamousNo7
Fam7: yes, that could happen, justice should prevail, right? :)
emigre
 

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