United - More on Rodwell!

We have to surely convince him that he will be more or less a part of the first team and if we can offer him that then there is a chance of us getting him.Playing at the highest level would improve any player and playing in the CL is another thing that we could offer him and that should be another attraction to him.

is he another turncoat, just like Rooney?

United are a sinking ship and any decent players will be snapped up by City or Chelsea. Rodwell is going nowhere, he will remain an Everton player for the rest of his brilliant career. Rooney will be jealous of him. United fans think their purple patch will last forever but I have news for you, your ageing side is on its way down, you have no money, your in millions of pounds worth of debt and your manager won't last forever.

Where are people getting this ageing side stuff from? Two seconds with google would tell you that there are only a handful of sides in the league who have a younger average than ours. Thats without considering the fact that our average age is heavily skewed by a 40 year old goalkeeper and 3 players over 35 who might not make the bench if our first team were fit. I'm actually wondering if this BJ guy can read. Show me a premier league team who isnt in debt, or one that has a manager that will last forever.

ooooh, JT back to the same tune eh? i have a bigger bicep, so who gives a *****? whether we are in debt or not has not made a difference to titles till now, we thought you should have it this year, good faith and a fair league all that.... You are an ageing side and we are in debt, we both agree to that. Also you were better this year but we have been better throughout the league's history. So if there's a hat-trick from the Blues we can start comparing scars.

Touched a nerve, have I elvido? Tuscan asked to show any PL club without debt and I did. And the ageing dig was directed towards Tuscan's explanation about how United aren't an old side. Dunno why you had to do a scouser and give me a istoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lesson. Not interested, though. lol

Chelsea's 47 million loss inclded the 25 million payoff to Scolari and his backroom staff and a 4 million payoff to Avram Grant and another 2 million paycheck to Guus Hiddink. Also included in that amount is a significant chunk (they speculate it may be up to 3-4 million) on infrastructural development. That's a net 12-15 million loss on a regular year- Which is easily going to be made up this year by the season ticket prices hike and the proposed naming rights to Stamford Bridge. Breaking even isn't far, the outgoing debt is just increasing now- From this season onwards, since Roman's written off the 726 million till last season (The Guardian broke their "story"about Chelsea Plc (Fordstam inc) owing money to Roman. That was really stupid journalism, anyone knowing a wee bit of finance will understand it's like buying a mobile phone and expecting the mobile phone to pay back the amount it took to buy the phone. The club also denied the reports vehemently by issuing a clarification in the club website. Conviniently, the Guardian chose to ignore that. Pile of tosh, that newspaper)- So an estimated 15-20 million loss to overcome next year- If Roman could pick up the tab on that also, the dream of breaking even by the 2010/2011 season is very realistic. The idea is to start showing a profit soon, since UEFA sanctions come into play from the 2013/2014 season. It may not be a jump to figures like 22 million which you lot are showing right now, but it will be a significant move forward.

Heres the thing even if things do turn to 5h1t real quickly for us in terms of finance i have complete faith that some billionaire would come and buy us and clear the debt. So we're in debt, yes well observed but if you seriously think that a global brand like us are going to disappear overnight you best think again.

Spurs may have debt, but they make a profit at the end of every season, so they can pay off that debt, buy players, and build a new stadium and training grounds.They are better run, and their wage bill is extremely reasonable considering how players are paid these days!United would have made a loss last year had it not been for the sale of Ronaldo, which is grand seeing as spurs often sell, but who are United gonna sell next season to keep their heads above water?If it's Rooney, I call dibs!

Spurs are better than everyone :-) that's what they tell you!

Oh I did'nt realise that was the case Tuscan, and Im not really bothered looking it up so Il take your word for it.And to the two idiots who posted above you, I never mentioned Spurs qualifacation(for the CL I presume), so why would you think that that is the reason I think Spurs are better run than United, desite all the reasons I listed there.And for the record, Spurs fans know exactly were they finished in the table, so to say that we say that we think were better than "everyone" is a gross overstatement!

"into a downward spiral" to be exact....

Then you are making comparisons based on? We are a better run club because of the obvious reasons, we have the experience, we have been excellent at it for a while now. If the debts are not considered then there is no question of which is the better administered club. And you haven'read my last post, I have not said anything about your qualifying having to do with better administration, i said that the qualification has made Spurs fans more vocal and in a couple of cases they have come here to unnecessarily slag us off. So be both agree on some points and disagree on the others, unless we wan't to duplicate the loop that was the argument between Tuscan and JT on another article we should call it quits. Cheers mate and good luck with the CL! On another note any chance of taking back Carrick and Berba, half price even?