Manchester United News 24/7Writer: Zae 
Date:Friday March 6 2009
Time: 12:01PM
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What Will This Country Do Without Ronaldo?
It looks like that every day someone has to talk about Ronaldo. This week the disease has apparently swept all over North London as first Modric and now Wenger expressed their opinions on Ronaldo.
'With Manchester United I'm a bit cautious because sometimes I feel they get too much protection and sometimes they don't get enough,' said Wenger.
'Ronaldo is a specific example of that. Sometimes his arrogance is provocative, and his class as well.'
His class is provocative... so it's OK to hunt down classy players or what is your point, Mr. Wenger?
And anyway, why people feel that they always need to scrutinize Ronaldo? It was annoying during the summer when everyone and their wives were slamming him for wanting to move to Madrid, now it's his 'theatrics' and 'arrogance'...
What will England do without Cristiano Ronaldo? Rafa's rotation and Abramovich firing rate (manager-firing, that is) tends to become boring too quickly so I don't know how the papers will be filled if he eventually leaves these shores.
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In short mate, you've misinterpreted Wenger's comment so incredibly badly that I kind of hope it's deliberate. If it wasn't, then I fear for your intelligence.
Little Dutch
In short mate, you've misinterpreted Wenger's comment so incredibly badly that I kind of hope it's deliberate. If it wasn't, then I fear for your intelligence.
Little Dutch
Don't forget LD that this is the same Wenger who shamefully defended your players after assaulting Nani in the FA Cup game last season, claiming that he did not show respect. And I stand by my question: what is his point? Ronaldo is too good and that's why butchers like Taylor can get away with attempts to maul him? Or what?
Zae
Don't forget LD that this is the same Wenger who shamefully defended your players after assaulting Nani in the FA Cup game last season, claiming that he did not show respect. And I stand by my question: what is his point? Ronaldo is too good and that's why butchers like Taylor can get away with attempts to maul him? Or what?
Zae
Oh, and I find it remarkable that after Wednesday's incident all the talk is about how Ronaldo should change, how he should be less arrogant. Not much criticism of Taylor who attempted to maim Carrick as well after punching Ronaldo.
Zae
Oh, and I find it remarkable that after Wednesday's incident all the talk is about how Ronaldo should change, how he should be less arrogant. Not much criticism of Taylor who attempted to maim Carrick as well after punching Ronaldo.
Zae
Zae, we could go backwards and forwards all day regarding incidents between our teams, the fact is if you'd have read AWs comments further- which at a whopping one paragraph would have taken you all day- you'd have seen this revealing gem; "But when a player is not protected it's not right. When there is a bad tackle you have to be punished and get sent off the pitch." If you can't decipher his point then I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're a bit simple. He's saying that because Ronaldo is so good defenders always try to kick him and that's not at all right. If you'd have read for one further paragraph, you'd see AW say he wants ten game bans for players who deliberately assault others. If you're going to try and write something provocative and skew your point towards your massive persecution complex, that's one thing, but at least try and be a little bit clever about it. Try and think of another defender also named Taylor in an incident that happened almost exactly a year ago and you'll see where AW is coming from.
Little Dutch
Zae, we could go backwards and forwards all day regarding incidents between our teams, the fact is if you'd have read AWs comments further- which at a whopping one paragraph would have taken you all day- you'd have seen this revealing gem; "But when a player is not protected it's not right. When there is a bad tackle you have to be punished and get sent off the pitch." If you can't decipher his point then I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you're a bit simple. He's saying that because Ronaldo is so good defenders always try to kick him and that's not at all right. If you'd have read for one further paragraph, you'd see AW say he wants ten game bans for players who deliberately assault others. If you're going to try and write something provocative and skew your point towards your massive persecution complex, that's one thing, but at least try and be a little bit clever about it. Try and think of another defender also named Taylor in an incident that happened almost exactly a year ago and you'll see where AW is coming from.
Little Dutch
My point is that his concern would have been much more credible if he hadn't highlighted how arrogant Ronaldo is. Then I'd actually believe he is concerned about EVERY skilful players and not just his own ones.
Zae
You also have the popular opinion that 'he brings a lot of it on himself' through diving (not as much as people make out, but he still does it). Some defenders may have the attitude "if he's gonna go down anyway, I'll give him something to go down for". Maybe this is what AW means when he talks about arrogance and provocative.
navydave
My point is that his concern would have been much more credible if he hadn't highlighted how arrogant Ronaldo is. Then I'd actually believe he is concerned about EVERY skilful players and not just his own ones.
Zae
You also have the popular opinion that 'he brings a lot of it on himself' through diving (not as much as people make out, but he still does it). Some defenders may have the attitude "if he's gonna go down anyway, I'll give him something to go down for". Maybe this is what AW means when he talks about arrogance and provocative.
navydave
Yes, and exactly that attitude (of the defenders) is what managers should not condone, not even implicitly.
Zae
Yes, and exactly that attitude (of the defenders) is what managers should not condone, not even implicitly.
Zae
Look, it's not difficult. He's saying that Ronaldo is a bit of a ***** and that means refs have pre conceptions about him which inform their decisions not to punish perpetrators. He goes on to say, in the quotes you "accidentally" missed out that this is completely wrong and that, no matter how much of a ***** Ronaldo is, offenders should be punished. It's really not difficult.
Little Dutch
Look, it's not difficult. He's saying that Ronaldo is a bit of a ***** and that means refs have pre conceptions about him which inform their decisions not to punish perpetrators. He goes on to say, in the quotes you "accidentally" missed out that this is completely wrong and that, no matter how much of a ***** Ronaldo is, offenders should be punished. It's really not difficult.
Little Dutch
He's not condoning it, he's criticising that attitude. Christ, have I accidentally ended up in the remedial class or something?
Little Dutch
He's not condoning it, he's criticising that attitude. Christ, have I accidentally ended up in the remedial class or something?
Little Dutch
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5014152,00.html
Even your manager understood it.
Little Dutch
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5014152,00.html
Even your manager understood it.
Little Dutch
Read the orignal quotes. All he's saying is that players like Ronaldo are easily targeted so as to put them off their game. Wenger is saying that the balance must be struck between protecting the player and keeping a fair consistancy for all tackling.
ArsenalRob
Read the orignal quotes. All he's saying is that players like Ronaldo are easily targeted so as to put them off their game. Wenger is saying that the balance must be struck between protecting the player and keeping a fair consistancy for all tackling.
ArsenalRob
yeah i understood what wenger meant to say...accepted it...no issues from me i think whoever wrote the article(i hope) wasn't completely serious....
a united fan
ibrahiy
yeah i understood what wenger meant to say...accepted it...no issues from me i think whoever wrote the article(i hope) wasn't completely serious....
a united fan
ibrahiy
nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance can make good players great!
dannybhoy46
nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance can make good players great!
dannybhoy46
in answer to your question - REJOICE!
Al Billy
in answer to your question - REJOICE!
Al Billy
they will probably turn their attention to the next best forgien player. Robinho or Torres.
Paulinho
they will probably turn their attention to the next best forgien player. Robinho or Torres.
Paulinho
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