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Listen To Us Rafa: United Won 8 Titles With 20M

Rafa 'Fat Spanish Waiter' Benitez is at it again: his latest excuse is that he can't compete financially with Manchester United and that's why they are always lagging behind.

'Every year United collect 60 million more than us - that means they can buy three 20 million players each season,' he told the Mirror. 'Chelsea will have spent 500 million over the last five years.

'We've made a team that can compete with them but economically we're inferiors and can't afford the players they can. I have enough data to bore you with but if you look at United it wasn't just spending 31m on Dimitar Berbatov - they can spend whatever it takes for what they need every year.

'In my five years I've paid less in transfer fees than I've received, even though I bought Fernando Torres and Robbie Keane.'

This last one is of course simply a lie. His net spending is around 82 million which in theory means that he could have FOUR 20 million players in his squad at the moment - United have three in Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov.

As everyone knows Benitez instead decided to splash the cash on mediocre players, signing 51 of them during his five years in charge. Reina, Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Skrtel and to a lesser extent Agger: these are his quality buys. The rest is made up mostly of duds like Pennant, Gonzalez, Morientes, Bellamy and so on. He wasted an awful lot of money on an awful lot of awful players.

But of course there's the argument that he had to overhaul a Liverpool squad which was poor because in previous years they haven't been able to compete with us financially. It's a convenient excuse but in a sense it's absolutely correct to say that Benitez's predecessors messed up Liverpool.

According to Liverpool have spent 388.2M since Sir Alex Ferguson took over the reins at Manchester United. Their income from player sales stood at 184.4M before the sale of Robbie Keane.

Now look at United's spending. Since November 1986 Sir Alex has spent around 410M (fee paid for Tosic and Ljajic also included, even though they've contributed nothing to our successes yet) while receiving around 180M from sales. The figures are calculated based on the data of and

Of course this 410M figure is only an approximate one; we may never be sure how much we actually paid for Carrick, Rooney or Anderson, not to mention the absolutely murky deal of Carlos Tevez. But on the grand scale, give or take ten million and it won't make too big a difference.

So, United spent roughly 20M more than our lovely rivals from down the East Lancs Road in the past 23 years. In this time Liverpool won two league titles; United won 10. If we conclude that yes, poor little Liverpool needed 388M to win two league titles then we also have to conclude that the 20M difference between the spending of the two clubs is responsible for the difference between the number of league titles won by each club.

So, United needed only 20M to win eight Premier League titles. There you are Rafa: the purchase of Robbie Keane should have set Liverpool up to dominate English football again.

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Writer: Zae Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday February 17 2009

Time: 2:56PM

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The fact is in his five liverpool,he has brought in so many crap players that it was impossible for their board to shell out any more.imagine if he had kept that cash and brought in few players but of real quality,may be just may be they would have challenged us way before .FOR eg.SIMAO INSteAd OF BABLe,he would have cost more or less the same.
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17/02/2009 16:28:00

Simao is quite a mediocre player, I never understood all the fuss about him to be honest. Anyway, I understand Liverpool's pain: they were forced to shell out all those millions on mediocre players as real quality footballers usually came nowhere near them, unsurprisingly.
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17/02/2009 17:04:00

Hmmm... i wonder. maybe 20M is all the difference and Liverpool started playing as if they could win the league... oh but then they started slipping up, sold robbie keane and are now 2 points behind (hopefully 5 by tomorrow night). so maybe it doesn't work
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17/02/2009 18:41:00

Actually, Zae, we've spent 20M to get eight more titles; therefore that means for each title we only spent 2.5M extra. So Robbie keane should have been enough for Liverpool to win the next eight titles... only he's now gone.
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17/02/2009 18:43:00

don't like Benitez..he's not a gentleman
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18/02/2009 00:52:00

sounds like complaining and excuses.
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18/02/2009 01:10:00

Man utd champions: yes, yes, that's why I've written that the purchase of Robbie Keane should have set them up for domination of English football.
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18/02/2009 08:18:00

Love the rampant xenophobia for the 'fat spanish waiter' comment. Was it not this type of insult that tipped your King Eric over the edge? Am i to presume, by your logic, that Rafa can wade into the OT crowd when they strike this chant up and it will be ok? Or would that be hypocritical?
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18/02/2009 10:02:00

He's Spanish AND looks like a fat waiter. Is this a xenophobic insult then? It's friendly banter compared to your Munich songs and your chants about Gary Neville. And who said that what Cantona did was OK? The only thing that reasonable United fans maintain is that the FA's punishment inflicted upon him, particularly after hinting earlier that they would be satisfied with the club's decision to suspend him for four months, until the end of the 1994/95 season.
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18/02/2009 13:50:00

Sorry Zae, I get what you mean. I was thinking that 20M for that many titles should have meant that they only needed one minor player a season. But now they sold Keane at a loss it looks like they've thrown their chance of being champions away too
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18/02/2009 13:56:00

Are your Hillsborough chants and Heysel chants friendly banter also? There mustn't have been too many 'reasonable united fans' in Old Trafford in 1995 then, when Cantona (the convicted criminal) was welcomed back to a hero's return. PS Re the xenophobic defence. Rubbish. He looks like a waiter? Do waiters have a common look?
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18/02/2009 14:11:00

To be fair, insults aside, Liverpool need to do their talking on the pitch. We're now five points clear, (effectively 6 due to 9+ goal difference) and Liverpool simply HAVE to beat us at Old Trafford, win all their games, and hope we slip up elsewhere. I don't think it's over yet - far from it, but if Liverpool drop further behind before that match, or Liverpool don't win, I can't see them having quite enough to go all the way. It's getting interesting. United are on a 9 match unbeaten run, and if things stay the same, the match at Old Trafford will decide the title.
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19/02/2009 10:14:00


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