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Arsenal Never Had Realistic Title Hopes

'When you look at the quality Arsenal have, I don't think we can finish off their title hopes on Saturday,' Ryan Giggs said not long after securing a 1-1 draw at Celtic for United.

Giggs, a very experienced footballer, is merely being respectful but he happens to be perfectly right (though not the way he means it) - looking at Arsenal's quality, it's clear we can't finish off their title hopes because they never had realistic hopes anyway.

I'm of course prepared to eat humble pie if they go on to win the league but that's highly unlikely. You could see it coming when Flamini, Hleb and Gilberto Silva left the club. Sustaining overachievement is very difficult and Arsenal massively overachieved last season with their title challenge and 83 points.

It is unlikely that 83 points will be enough for the title this season even if Arsenal do manage to accumulate that amount with a squad that is obviously weaker than last season's (and weaker, considerably, than United's and Chelsea's). And of course the Gooners only suffered three defeats last season in the league and two of these were at Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge. Now they already have three defeats and haven't played any of the top four yet.

So, Arsenal winning the league would be a bigger surprise, for me, than Celtic winning the Champions League. Unfortunately, that does not mean they can't beat the hell out of us on Saturday. Especially if we'll be as wasteful in front of goal as... well, as all the time this season really.

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Writer: Zae Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday November 6 2008

Time: 5:50PM

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Unfortunately I agree, Arsenal had no realistic title hopes to begin with, losing Hleb, Gilberto and Flamini is bad but not replacing them is criminal. Arsenal are a much weaker side than the one last season and therefore they will not win the league, most Arsenal have been thinking this since the summer and Arsenal's weak form has come as no surprise whatsoever, desperately frustrating.
Professor Calculus
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06/11/2008 18:08:00

Wenger walking a potential four year trophy-less tightrope then!
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06/11/2008 19:20:00

lol Arsenal massively over achieved ? So patronizing, we blitzed the league until some very unfortunate things happened to us in March ! We were never gonna challenge this season though you are right, with the money your spending we would have little hope in challenging you.
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06/11/2008 20:41:00

is it a case of sending in boys to do a mans jobs?
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07/11/2008 10:56:00

hazzagooner: but it was still overachievement. Arsenal's squad was only the third best last season so by leading the table for long months they were definitely punching above their weight.
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07/11/2008 13:51:00

Zae we will see what yu achieve come may. yu talk too much bs yu know. after tomm, lesse how much of a title challenge yu will left in yu..
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07/11/2008 17:42:00

well we will see how realistic they are after saturday's game .. another lost would probably mean that they cant be taken seriously this season
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08/11/2008 13:57:00

zae where the are you lilttle *****?all talks and no action!!you should be more worried about your team than arsenal!already lost to us and liverpool and drew at chelsea!!thanks for the 3pts nuff said
the arsenal
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08/11/2008 17:17:00

lol arabianknight, we hope nobody takes us seriously till we lift the title, cuz we love it this way. & Zae yu have too much crap in that little brain of urs, take sometime off n clear the dust & that egg tats looking so good on ur face..
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08/11/2008 17:43:00

Zae - You do keep setting yourself up to look a complete muppet mate! I would consider not talking so much bollox about other teams chances and worry more about your own, or you'll quickly become the biggest laughing stock around here!
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10/11/2008 15:29:00

I find it starange that all these Man upstarts are talking about Arsenal having no hope in the title race when United are only 1pt ahead of them. Urmmmmmm yea that makes real sense. YNWA!!
I Bling Red
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18/11/2008 12:53:00


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